Whelans London Not Part of Whelans Ireland

Social Responsibility Note to All London Giging Musicians

I decided to write to Whelans Ireland since Nadya’s partner mentioned they were part of the largest live music pub in Ireland and it was normal for musicians there to play for 3 hours. These are the emails, please read from below.

Titus

 

Hi Darren,
 
Thanks for your reply. Its much appreciated, I will put the word out to the musicians in London about this as I can imagine lots of issues coming up. We don’t want your name to get dragged into this. Its sad that the owner are riding on your good name and shortchanging musicians here.
 
Best Regards
Titus
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Darren Craig <darren@whelanslive.com> wrote:

Hi Titus,
 
Whelan’s in Dublin has been owned by Frank Gleeson since 1999 and has nothing to do with the set up of Whelan’s in London. If they are part of a chain it has nothing to do with us but thanks for informing us of the situation. We’ll keep an eye on it and good luck chasing payment for your act, Whelan’s in Dublin is well renowned throughout the world and we do not have a policy of short changing hard working musicians.
 
Kind Regards
Darren
 
From: accountsmfl@gmail.com [mailto:accountsmfl@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Accounts MFL
Sent: 26 May 2009 19:27

To: Darren Craig
Subject: Re: Accounts Department Contact Details
 
Hi Darren,
 
They mentioned they are part of a chain from Ireland, would you think they are using your name illegally?
 
They booked our Gypsy Kings tribute band from 9 - 12 for £900,00 but paid only £450.00 because the band did not play for the full 3 hours, the owner said they were part of the biggest live music pub in Ireland and its normal for bands to play 3 hours non stop. I don’t think this is the case anywhere in the world.
 
Its only normal a 3 hour booking includes breaks.
 
We allowed them to book the band without a deposit based on the merits of Whelans in Dublin. The persons name is Nadya Gaughran.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Kind Regards
 
Titus

Information Request
Client Name: Whelans
Client Mailing Address: 60 copenhagen street
Client Telephone: 020 7278 5781
Client Email: nadya@mail.ie
Performers Requested: gypsy kings
Event Type: opening party
Event Date: 23rd may
Performance Start Time: 9
Performance End Time: 12
Time to be set up by: 9
Venue: whelans
Venue Address and Post Code: 60 copenhagen street
Venue Contact: Nadia
Number of Guests: 200
Dress Code Requested: smart
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Darren Craig <darren@whelanslive.com> wrote:
Nothing got to do with us. We’re only in Dublin.
 
Thanks
 
Darren Craig
Whelans / The Village / Andrew’s Lane Theatre / WaV
25 Wexford Street
Dublin 2
01 478 0766
darren@whelanslive.com
www.whelanslive.com
www.thevillagevenue.com
www.andrewslanetheatre.ie
 
 
 
 
From: accountsmfl@gmail.com [mailto:accountsmfl@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Accounts MFL
Sent: 26 May 2009 18:58
To: Darren Craig
Subject: Re: Accounts Department Contact Details
 
Hi Darren,
 
This is in relation to a Gypsy Kings tribute band booking at Whelans London.
 
Thank You for your help.
 
Kind Regards
Titus Raj
0207 993 8007
www.musicforlondon.co.uk
 
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Darren Craig <darren@whelanslive.com> wrote:
What’s this in relation to?
 
Thanks
 
Darren Craig
Whelans / The Village / Andrew’s Lane Theatre / WaV
25 Wexford Street
Dublin 2
01 478 0766
darren@whelanslive.com
www.whelanslive.com
www.thevillagevenue.com
www.andrewslanetheatre.ie
 
 
 
 
From: accountsmfl@gmail.com [mailto:accountsmfl@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Accounts MFL
Sent: 25 May 2009 18:20
To: darren@whelanslive.com
Subject: Accounts Department Contact Details
 
Dear Sir,
 
Can you kindly email me the contact details for the accounts department at Whelans.
 
Many Thanks
 
Kind Regards
Titus Raj
0207 993 8007
www.musicforlondon.co.uk

Bad Debts Irish Pub Whelans Nadya Gaughran

Social Responsibility Note to All London Giging Musicians

This is a note to all musicians in London who intend to perform at Whelans. Most pubs as we know are fair to musicians but ever so often we find one that will short change us.  Sad to say this is one of them. Please ensure you take your money upfront when performing at Whelans. Please be aware of this Irish  pub chain operating in in Copenhagen Street London and run by a lady called Nadya Gaughran.  They will pay you half after you have performed. Their excuse would be you did not perform for the full three hours  non stop.

They booked a Gypsy Kings tribute band from 9.00pm - 12.00 am. I had given them the option of 3×30 minutes or 2×45 minutes but they did not choose either. I allowed for them to decide on the night. The band performed one and a half hours non stop as the owners did not want breaks. At the end of the night the client only paid half  (£450) the agreed fee of £900.00 for a five piece band.

She said there would be press there and we would get good publicity and wanted a bigger discount from our original price of £1200.00.

This was a last minute booking and she kept avoiding me about sending the contract back but assured me everything was in order and she was busy at the pub. When I called the day before the gig, her partner at the pub told me she had left her phone and gone out.

This is a classic example of a promoter pub owner who probably did not make their targeted income thus came up with an excuse about the band not performing non stop for 3 hours. 

She was extremely rude to me  and hung up the phone when I called her when the musicians had let me know that she did not want to pay up. When I called her number again, her partner said she had left the pub (he refused to give his name) he assured me he would call me back the next day and resolve the matter, of course that call has still not come from him or any other Whelan Pub Staff.

After 7 years of booking musicians, this was the first client that actually came up with this excuse.  Quiet original, I hope no other musicians or music agents are victims of this. Below is her email confirming the booking.

From: Accounts MFL <accounts@musicforlondon.co.uk>
To: nadya@mail.ie
Subject: Information Request - Gypsy Kings Tribute
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:41:24 +0100
Hi Nadya,
It was good to speak to you earlier today. If you can kindly send me the information below, I can then send you an invoice and an agreement confirming the booking.
Kind Regards
Titus Raj
0207 993 8007
www.musicforlondon.co.uk
 
 
Hi Titus
 
Please find details below as requested
 
regards
 
Nadia

— accounts@musicforlondon.co.uk wrote:

From: Accounts MFL <accounts@musicforlondon.co.uk>
To: nadya@mail.ie
Subject: Information Request - Gypsy Kings Tribute
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:41:24 +0100
Hi Nadya,
It was good to speak to you earlier today. If you can kindly send me the information below, I can then send you an invoice and an agreement confirming the booking.
Kind Regards
Titus Raj
0207 993 8007
www.musicforlondon.co.uk
 
 
Information Request
Client Name: Whelans
Client Mailing Address: 60 copenhagen street
Client Telephone: 020 7278 5781
Client Email: nadya@mail.ie
Performers Requested: gypsy kings
Event Type: opening party
Event Date: 23rd may
Performance Start Time: 9
Performance End Time: 12
Time to be set up by: 9
Venue: whelans
Venue Address and Post Code: 60 copenhagen street
Venue Contact: Nadia
Number of Guests: 200
Dress Code Requested: smart